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TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:01 am
by Nakedgun
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Today, I took the nine-question email survey.

All I want them to change is to lose the accursed undercuts.

We'll see.




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Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:54 pm
by messier 111
I did it too, I had the impression that this survey was a sort of justification for a price increase, lol

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:11 am
by DeanD
Yeah, I noted the undercuts as not a good thing too. The survey seemed very prescribed, and didn't give the opportunity to make other comments. I'm not sure what they would gain from it- other than to get our email addresses if they didn't have them already... ;)

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:05 pm
by Don Pensack
Nakedgun wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:01 am ~

Today, I took the nine-question email survey.

All I want them to change is to lose the accursed undercuts.

We'll see.




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I would be shocked if that ever happened.
It would imply they acknowledged something was wrong with the undercuts on all their other eyepieces.
It would create pressure on them to change the eyepieces they already make, which would create the problem of obsolete stock and a mixed inventory.
A mixed inventory would require them to discount the ones with undercuts and carry a lot of inventory they can't afford to stock.
So the best we're going to see is the beveled lower edge of the undercut on the barrels.

I fixed the problem of the undercuts by filling in the undercut with copper tape. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix the problem of the brass split ring binding in focusers, adapters, coma correctors and Barlows.
The brass split rings are the source of many insertion and removal problems for accessories.

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:29 am
by Lady Fraktor
What type of questions did they ask or are they only for the select few? ;)

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:12 pm
by messier 111
Lady Fraktor wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:29 am What type of questions did they ask or are they only for the select few? ;)
here is the survey,
https://televue.com/...s-your-opinion/

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:32 pm
by Lady Fraktor
It just comes up as a not found error (404)

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:34 am
by DeanD
If this doesn't work (below), just go to their website, enter their blog, and click on "televise eyepieces: what's your opinion?"
https://televue.com/televueopticstalk/2 ... r-opinion/

Have fun!

Dean

(PS: It wasn't worth it, was it?! :confusion-shrug: )

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:51 am
by Lady Fraktor
No it was not :)
Nor does it seem that what they think is important matches what I think is important.
:confusion-shrug:

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:39 pm
by OzEclipse
Don Pensack wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:05 pm
Nakedgun wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:01 am ~

Today, I took the nine-question email survey.

All I want them to change is to lose the accursed undercuts.

We'll see.
.
I would be shocked if that ever happened.
It would imply they acknowledged something was wrong with the undercuts on all their other eyepieces.
It would create pressure on them to change the eyepieces they already make, which would create the problem of obsolete stock and a mixed inventory.
A mixed inventory would require them to discount the ones with undercuts and carry a lot of inventory they can't afford to stock.
So the best we're going to see is the beveled lower edge of the undercut on the barrels.

I fixed the problem of the undercuts by filling in the undercut with copper tape. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix the problem of the brass split ring binding in focusers, adapters, coma correctors and Barlows.
The brass split rings are the source of many insertion and removal problems for accessories.

Whilst I like my TV Naglers, like many others, I find the binding of the compression ring in the undercut quite irritating.

The undercut binding problem is so easily fixed at manufacturing level. They could retain the undercut but instead of a hard edge to return to the full diameter, machine a gradual return, a taper. Then the compression rings would slide up the taper without binding.

Joe

Re: TV eyepiece survey

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:13 pm
by Don Pensack
OzEclipse wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:39 pm
Don Pensack wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:05 pm
Nakedgun wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:01 am ~

Today, I took the nine-question email survey.

All I want them to change is to lose the accursed undercuts.

We'll see.
.
I would be shocked if that ever happened.
It would imply they acknowledged something was wrong with the undercuts on all their other eyepieces.
It would create pressure on them to change the eyepieces they already make, which would create the problem of obsolete stock and a mixed inventory.
A mixed inventory would require them to discount the ones with undercuts and carry a lot of inventory they can't afford to stock.
So the best we're going to see is the beveled lower edge of the undercut on the barrels.

I fixed the problem of the undercuts by filling in the undercut with copper tape. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix the problem of the brass split ring binding in focusers, adapters, coma correctors and Barlows.
The brass split rings are the source of many insertion and removal problems for accessories.

Whilst I like my TV Naglers, like many others, I find the binding of the compression ring in the undercut quite irritating.

The undercut binding problem is so easily fixed at manufacturing level. They could retain the undercut but instead of a hard edge to return to the full diameter, machine a gradual return, a taper. Then the compression rings would slide up the taper without binding.

Joe
And that is exactly what Tele Vue did--beveled the lower lip of the undercuts on the barrels. It didn't eliminate the problems created by undercuts, but it did help.