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Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:48 am
by StarHugger
Nice, best of luck with the new digs and looking forward to some Images!

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:30 am
by KathyNS
JayTee wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:58 am A tip I learned from my eclectrician when he was pulling my power cable through 150' of conduit: He used only string and a vacuum cleaner (shop vac) to pull the string all the way throught the 150' of conduit. I was amazed at how well and how quickly that worked. He just used light cotton string attached to the power cable.
Yes. That is how I pulled the power cable for the building.

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:32 am
by Graeme1858
KathyNS wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:45 pm Some minor progress yesterday and today. I pulled DC power and data cables through their respective conduits to the mount. I still have some re-connection to do: I had to cut the RS-232 cable to remove it prior to the move, so now I have to splice it back together.

Tips for pulling multiple cables through one conduit:
- Make sure it is a big conduit, especially if some of the cables are USB.
- Pull cables one at a time.
- Don't try to pull cable with a fish wire. Use the fish wire to pull a string.
- Attach each cable in turn to the string, then pull it plus another string through the conduit.
- Pull cables in decreasing order of plug size. USB before RJ45. Naked cables last.
- Leave the last string in the conduit for future use.

With all the tying of string, I had to work gloveless. It was cold. Note to self: use a heater next time!

Cables are never pulled sequentially into a conduit due to the risk of friction burns causing damage to the cables. The cable drums are put on a rack, or a length of conduit, or a broom handle and all fed into the conduit in one go with one person feeding them in and one person pulling on the draw string.

Graeme

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:01 pm
by KathyNS
Graeme1858 wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:32 am Cables are never pulled sequentially into a conduit due to the risk of friction burns causing damage to the cables. The cable drums are put on a rack, or a length of conduit, or a broom handle and all fed into the conduit in one go with one person feeding them in and one person pulling on the draw string.
That would have been my preference. But it wasn't going to work due to the USB and RJ45 plugs on the ends of the cables. There was no way to bundle the plugs in a way that wouldn't jam in the bends in the conduit.

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:17 pm
by KathyNS
It has been a long, cold, cloudy winter. But I have finally been able to do some work on the observatory. I still need better weather to work on the dome movement, but I now have a working all-sky camera. And last night, we actually had a clear sky, so I was able to grab some frames for calibration. So, here is a first light image from the Helena Observatory:
first light at Helena.png

Close pixel-peepers will notice that the compass points and elevation circles are not accurate. They were a best guess, based on some crude measurements of the installation. However, the star 52UMa cooperated by crossing close to the zenith during the run, so today I was able to calibrate the image overlay. The next set of images, next clear night, will be more accurately marked.

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:04 pm
by Gordon
How many months has it been since you've had clear sky?

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:33 pm
by KathyNS
Now that the eclipse is over (It was amazing!), I have been back to work on the observatory. I found out where the problem was in the rotation: screw heads binding on one of my passive hold-down brackets. That is now fixed, and the dome is rotating freely. Today, I got my imaging scope mounted and the various bits wired up. The next thing will be a full daylight functional test, followed by a polar alignment.

I also did some work on my security cameras. The prime objective was not astronomy-related. There is a stray cat we are trying to trap so we can get him neutered. Monitoring his habits so we can trap him means having a camera able to sense and record movement even at night. I have been beating on the software for days trying to get it to work. (The new software is crap. I reverted back to the old program and it works much better.) In the process, I made sure that my observatory cams were working properly. Here are a couple of shots inside, showing the newly-mounted scope. (Kinda hard to see the black scope against the black dome, but you get the idea.)
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Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:40 pm
by Gordon
That’s a great setup Kathy!

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:14 am
by Graeme1858
Looking good Kathy.

Glad you got the software problems sorted out. Now you just have to do the same with the cat!

Will it be long before you're operational?

Graeme

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:19 pm
by KathyNS
Graeme1858 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:14 am Will it be long before you're operational?
I sure hope not! This move has taken way too long to complete, and the honey-do list is still long. I have been out of action for nearly a year, and that is way too long for my sanity.

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:09 pm
by Graeme1858
Are you still using the WalkerDome ASCOM driver? I spent a lot of time studying that code when I was putting my observatory together. It's impressive!

Perhaps subcontract out some of the honey-dos? :icon-smile:

Graeme

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:32 am
by KathyNS
A major milestone tonight: the first polar alignment on the new pier. It is too cloudy to do anything serious, but there was a convenient sucker hole right around Polaris.

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:25 pm
by KathyNS
The imaging Newtonian is collimated, and all the wires are connected, and the sky was clearish, so I thought I'd take it out for a spin. The best-laid plans, and all that...

As part of this move and rebuild, I installed a new computer, so of course, all my software had to be re-installed. My legacy version (3.1) of SGP, which runs fine on the old computer, installed okay on the new one, but now it pops up license nagware. There is probably a license key somewhere, but of course, they aren't going to tell me where it is, so they will force me to upgrade to the subscription version.

I had come to terms with this a while back, and was all set to use NINA instead, but its user interface is pretty strange in comparison. As a result, I revisited the SGP saga, and confirmed that it was going to be unusable. So, back to NINA.

I think I almost had a working test sequence set up. But it surprised me by having no knowledge of the time of day. Apparently, for that, I have to use the "Advanced" sequencer. It took me a while, but I found it. Now I have to set it up.

<rant>
One thing that bugs the heck out of me is that software developers don't supply any documentation any more. User interfaces are no longer "user-friendly". Remember when that was a thing? It should be a thing again. The only instructions available come from absolutely dreadful customer-produced YouTube "tutorials". I **HATE** customer-generated video tutorials. I hate having to sit through 30 seconds of their theme music at the beginning, I hate seeing their ugly mug in an insert in the corner of the screen. But since there is no other source of introduction to NINA's (in this case) user interface and no other way to find out what goes where, I'm going to have to sit through two or three of these to figure it out. Aaargh!!
</rant>

Oh, and along the way, I found that the drivers for my guide camera (QHY5) are only available on the Wayback Machine web archive. At least they are available. I just downloaded them and ... amazingly ... they work. Phew. For a while last night, I thought I'd have to forego guiding. (That is the second time the Wayback Machine has saved my butt. The first was about 18 years ago when I accidentally deleted a customer's website. Oops! :oops: )

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:57 pm
by Graeme1858
Great to see you're nearly there Kathy.

.... and was all set to use NINA instead

Excellent! NINA is brilliant! Whatever you want it to do, it can probably do it!

Here's the manual:

https://nighttime-imaging.eu/docs/master/site/

Graeme

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:14 pm
by KathyNS
Graeme1858 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:57 pm Here's the manual:

https://nighttime-imaging.eu/docs/master/site/

Graeme
Thanks for that link, Graeme. The manual is less clear than it ought to be, but is a vast improvement over the videos. (But why did they use the least readable colour scheme for the example screen grabs? Argh!)

Re: Helena Observatory (re)build

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 1:19 pm
by KathyNS
When I got ready to test the Atik 383L+ camera, it failed. It looks like a bad connector. It may be fixable, either by me or by sending it back to the factory. In the meantime, I purchased a used SBIG STF8300 with matching filter wheel.

So I have a working camera again. The SBIG is slightly better-engineered than the Atik. Since it has the same sensor, I expect performance to be very similar.

I haven't had first light yet, thanks to the weather, but if we ever get a clear night, the observatory is finally ready. I achieved "first dark" last night. With nothing outside to shoot, I shot a series of darks, from 120s 2x2 to 900s 1x1, at -10C as well as some bias frames. I will shoot the series again at my other common working temperatures, and maybe add a few more at -10. The darks look good. There are a few hot pixels, but not enough to worry about. They are to be expected in a camera with a few kilometres on it.

I will also shoot a series of flats in the next few days.