Thoughts on the Baader eyepiece turret
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Re: Thoughts on the Baader eyepiece turret
I’m not a fan of the turret except as a holding tray. Unless I would clamp down on the thumbscrews more than I’d like the force required to turn the turret is also enough to swivel the assembly at the attachment point to the OTAs.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:55 pm Interested in opinions having used one, build quality, any issues in use?
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I was thinking it may not align properly over time as I believe the body is plastic?
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Yes, there is that plastic issue. But I haven't tested it over time.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:40 pm Interesting, that had not crossed my mind.
I was thinking it may not align properly over time as I believe the body is plastic?
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Re: Thoughts on the Baader eyepiece turret
The main application would be high power observing with manual mounts. I love the ability to switch fast and smoothly between 4 powers on a tight double.
In a way plastic body is a plus. It keeps the turret lightweight and does not create any balance issues. I can use it with ultralight setup like this.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
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Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
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Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.
Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Mounts: Skywatcher AZ-GTe, EQ6-R Pro
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Baader Hyperion Mark IV 8-24mm zoom, Hyperion zoom barlow 2.25x
Filters: Celestron Variable Polarizing, SvBony F9131A UHC, Baader O III 10nm, Classic Lumicon O III, homemade solar filter with Baader OD 5.0 film, Optolong UV/IR cut
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Re: Thoughts on the Baader eyepiece turret
I do like the fact that the Baader lets you use your own diagonal.
I was looking at the only other one that is just for 1.25" eyepieces... a nice piece of kit but by the time it would arrive here the cost would be € 800- € 900!
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Re: Thoughts on the Baader eyepiece turret
However, the Baader one does not feel that bad in hands. It is solidly made but for small and light eyepieces only.
In the end I decided not to buy it since most of the eyepieces I use are not parfocal. The advantage of the quick
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Mounts: Skywatcher AZ-GTe, EQ6-R Pro
EPs: Baader Q turret with 32mm Classic Plossl and 18mm, 10mm, 6mm Classic Orthos and Q Turret barlow 2.25x
Baader Hyperion Mark IV 8-24mm zoom, Hyperion zoom barlow 2.25x
Filters: Celestron Variable Polarizing, SvBony F9131A UHC, Baader O III 10nm, Classic Lumicon O III, homemade solar filter with Baader OD 5.0 film, Optolong UV/IR cut
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The eyepiece positions of the Baader do seem to encourage fogging from breathing, something the Tak, TEC and nPAE with the side positions should suffer from less. A good thing we have desert like viewing conditions here in SlovakiaPeterD wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:00 am I was playing with an idea to get one some time ago. The plastic material and possible eyepieces fogging were the main concerns. The Tak turret seems to be a better design when it comes to the eyepiece fogging i guess.
However, the Baader one does not feel that bad in hands. It is solidly made but for small and light eyepieces only.
In the end I decided not to buy it since most of the eyepieces I use are not parfocal. The advantage of the quick EP change will not be that significant because of the need to refocus. Also, I do not have enough in focus on my most used refractor.
I would be using the turret with my jeweler loupe eyepieces so weight would not be a issue.
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
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Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
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The BCO are a well regarded eyepiece set, they should be a very good step up for viewing.Razz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:03 am Well, I tried it last night and I actually liked it, mostly because I could switch between eyepieces quickly. It did take me a couple of tries to change between eyepieces without moving the scope too much but I learned that pretty quickly. Quality-wise, it seemed ok to me but only time will tell how well it'll hold up. Also, for me personally, the included eyepieces are a definite step up from the Astromania eyepieces I was using.
Good to hear that there were not issues in use as well.
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Looking around at various sites I see there are 3/4/5 eyepiece turrets like the Baader. The 3 was only € 30 so is a cheap way to try this style.
I will say the usual suspects are expensive even used but I do like some of the features of the nPAE RUBY 1.25" turret.
https://www.npae.net/product/1-25-telescope-turret/
Though the turrets give adjustment to make all the eyepieces parafocal it is not a large requirement for me.
When you are viewing with Ball, Hasting, Plossl and other designs you get used to refocusing a lot.
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Looking at your images, I see you are using your Vixen with the turret.
Have you tried it with say a regular 5mm Plossl in the mix? Do the other eyepieces get in the way at all?
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1000101)
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I have observed with BCO set and TV Plossl set. There were no issues having 6mm Ortho or 7.3mm Plossl next to 32mm Plossl.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:41 pm @Bigzmey
Looking at your images, I see you are using your Vixen with the turret.
Have you tried it with say a regular 5mm Plossl in the mix? Do the other eyepieces get in the way at all?
At one point I was doing shoot out of 15mm EPs and had 15mm SLV with 15mm Plossls, it worked fine.
I have never tried having 6mm Ortho in between two SLVs. I can try next time.
BTW, SLVs (@ 5-6oz) are the heaviest EPs this turret can handle.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.
Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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The turret I linked to before I was really getting interested in but I noticed the mirror is only rated at 1/4 wave... that seems like it would be detrimental to the views through the telescope.
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
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Yikes! 1/4 wave is not particularly great...Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:34 am Thank you Bigzmey, not a hurry as I will be seriously looking for one in the spring, that will let the finance officer recover from the cost of the new mount and telescope
The turret I linked to before I was really getting interested in but I noticed the mirror is only rated at 1/4 wave... that seems like it would be detrimental to the views through the telescope.
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I was looking at some usedLady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:34 am Thank you Bigzmey, not a hurry as I will be seriously looking for one in the spring, that will let the finance officer recover from the cost of the new mount and telescope
The turret I linked to before I was really getting interested in but I noticed the mirror is only rated at 1/4 wave... that seems like it would be detrimental to the views through the telescope.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.
Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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I was quite surprised when I read that, they use 1/10 wave mirrors in their other turrets but this uses a molybdenum mirror.notFritzArgelander wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:51 amYikes! 1/4 wave is not particularly great...Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:34 am Thank you Bigzmey, not a hurry as I will be seriously looking for one in the spring, that will let the finance officer recover from the cost of the new mount and telescope
The turret I linked to before I was really getting interested in but I noticed the mirror is only rated at 1/4 wave... that seems like it would be detrimental to the views through the telescope.
A strange choice to me since a turret is more for visual and molybdenum is more for laser work from what I read.
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1000101)
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I was looking around some more and Kson makes a 3 eyepiece turret similar to the Baader, Lacerta make a 5 eyepiece turret in the Baader style but it is aluminium.Bigzmey wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:18 pmI was looking at some usedLady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:34 am Thank you Bigzmey, not a hurry as I will be seriously looking for one in the spring, that will let the finance officer recover from the cost of the new mount and telescope
The turret I linked to before I was really getting interested in but I noticed the mirror is only rated at 1/4 wave... that seems like it would be detrimental to the views through the telescope.EP turrets with prism built in and thought the same thing. Mediocre prism/mirror will ruin the purpose. Also, not a big fan of anEP seating upside down in the turret. I do forget on occasion to tightenEP holder screws...
https://tavcso.hu/en/product/OkRevLA5
See Far Sticks: Elita 103/1575, AOM FLT 105/1000, Bresser 127/1200 BV, Nočný stopár 152/1200, Vyrobené doma 70/700, Stellarvue NHNG DX 80/552, TAL RS 100/1000, Vixen SD115s/885
EQ: TAL MT-1, Vixen SXP, SXP2, AXJ, AXD
Az/Alt: AYO Digi II, Stellarvue M2C, Argo Navis encoders on both
Tripods: Berlebach Planet (2), Uni 28 Astro, Report 372, TAL factory maple, Vixen ASG-CB90, Vixen AXD-TR102
Diagonals: Astro-Physics, Baader Amici, Baader Herschel, iStar Blue, Stellarvue DX, Tak prism, TAL, Vixen
Eyepieces: Antares to Zeiss (1000101)
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