Difficult Concepts (for me)
- chasmanian
- Pluto Ambassador
- Articles: 0
- Posts: 439
- Joined: Sat May 11, 2019 1:06 am
- 4
- Location: USA
- Status:
Offline
Re: Difficult Concepts (for me)
"What is testable is GR. Without a quantum gravity we have a well tested theory that is only testable back to a Planck time after a Big Bang or Big Crunch."
wow, awesome.
"Whether space NOW 13+ billion years after is infinite is testable assuming GR and the CMB observations. Given those assumptions and observations the odds are 2:1 that space is infinite. By reducing observational error one can get more definite about the test result."
hmmmmm
the sky's the limit? hahahaha
nFA, if you feel like it,
would you please elaborate on reducing observational error?
is it possible or likely?
how would it be accomplished?
wow, awesome.
"Whether space NOW 13+ billion years after is infinite is testable assuming GR and the CMB observations. Given those assumptions and observations the odds are 2:1 that space is infinite. By reducing observational error one can get more definite about the test result."
hmmmmm
the sky's the limit? hahahaha
nFA, if you feel like it,
would you please elaborate on reducing observational error?
is it possible or likely?
how would it be accomplished?
- notFritzArgelander
- In Memory
- Articles: 0
- Posts: 14925
- Joined: Fri May 10, 2019 4:13 pm
- 4
- Location: Idaho US
- Status:
Offline
-
TSS Awards Badges
Re: Difficult Concepts (for me)
There are two main approaches to reducing the observational errors.chasmanian wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:24 am "What is testable is GR. Without a quantum gravity we have a well tested theory that is only testable back to a Planck time after a Big Bang or Big Crunch."
wow, awesome.
"Whether space NOW 13+ billion years after is infinite is testable assuming GR and the CMB observations. Given those assumptions and observations the odds are 2:1 that space is infinite. By reducing observational error one can get more definite about the test result."
hmmmmm
the sky's the limit? hahahaha
nFA, if you feel like it,
would you please elaborate on reducing observational error?
is it possible or likely?
how would it be accomplished?
First and most straight forward is simply the improvement of the technology of CMB observations. It’s going to happen in some decades.
The second one is to find connections between the parameters that can be determined from the CMB and other methods as well. This might happen sooner than decades. For instance the texture of the CMB fluctuations should be relatable to the texture of the mass fluctuations observable at later times by the JWST. This would provide more leverage to the problem than just beating current errors down with better technology.
Scopes: Refs: Orion ST80, SV 80EDA f7, TS 102ED f11 Newts: AWB 130mm, f5, Z12 f5; Cats: VMC110L, Intes MK66,VMC200L f9.75 EPs: KK Fujiyama Orthoscopics, 2x Vixen NPLs (40-6mm) and BCOs, Baader Mark IV zooms, TV Panoptics, Delos, Plossl 32-8mm. Mixed brand Masuyama/Astroplans Binoculars: Nikon Aculon 10x50, Celestron 15x70, Baader Maxbright. Mounts: Star Seeker IV, Vixen Porta II, Celestron CG5
- chasmanian
- Pluto Ambassador
- Articles: 0
- Posts: 439
- Joined: Sat May 11, 2019 1:06 am
- 4
- Location: USA
- Status:
Offline
- chasmanian
- Pluto Ambassador
- Articles: 0
- Posts: 439
- Joined: Sat May 11, 2019 1:06 am
- 4
- Location: USA
- Status:
Offline
Re: Difficult Concepts (for me)
nFA,
as for the infinity in singularities,
I am thinking that both actual and potential infinity proponents,
would see that as neither actual nor potential.
it just tells us that GR does not work there.
is that right?
as for the infinity in singularities,
I am thinking that both actual and potential infinity proponents,
would see that as neither actual nor potential.
it just tells us that GR does not work there.
is that right?
- notFritzArgelander
- In Memory
- Articles: 0
- Posts: 14925
- Joined: Fri May 10, 2019 4:13 pm
- 4
- Location: Idaho US
- Status:
Offline
-
TSS Awards Badges
Re: Difficult Concepts (for me)
Indeed it says that GR fails at singularities.chasmanian wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:56 pm nFA,
as for the infinity in singularities,
I am thinking that both actual and potential infinity proponents,
would see that as neither actual nor potential.
it just tells us that GR does not work there.
is that right?
Scopes: Refs: Orion ST80, SV 80EDA f7, TS 102ED f11 Newts: AWB 130mm, f5, Z12 f5; Cats: VMC110L, Intes MK66,VMC200L f9.75 EPs: KK Fujiyama Orthoscopics, 2x Vixen NPLs (40-6mm) and BCOs, Baader Mark IV zooms, TV Panoptics, Delos, Plossl 32-8mm. Mixed brand Masuyama/Astroplans Binoculars: Nikon Aculon 10x50, Celestron 15x70, Baader Maxbright. Mounts: Star Seeker IV, Vixen Porta II, Celestron CG5
- chasmanian
- Pluto Ambassador
- Articles: 0
- Posts: 439
- Joined: Sat May 11, 2019 1:06 am
- 4
- Location: USA
- Status:
Offline
Create an account or sign in to join the discussion
You need to be a member in order to post a reply
Create an account
Not a member? register to join our community
Members can start their own topics & subscribe to topics
It’s free and only takes a minute