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05/03/24

Location: Anza desert site, Bortle 4.0.

Equipment: Celestron 9.25” Edge HD SCT on SkyTee 2 manual AltAz mount.

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Pentax XW 14mm, 70 deg (168x, 1.4mm exit pupil, 0.42 deg TFV)
Pentax XW 20mm, 70 deg (118x, 2.0 mm exit pupil, 0.6 deg TFV)

For the last few weeks, I have been waiting for an opportunity to revisit my Anza desert site. Forecast for Friday night called for clear skies, but with ~90% humidity and high chance of fog developing after midnight. Far from ideal. Still, it was a clear night on the new Moon, so I decide to go. After over six months of bad weather, it was nice to finally come back.

Out of practice it took me longer to set the camp and deploy the astro equipment. At least I did not forget anything at home. :D Finally, all was in place, and I had time to relax having dinner and watching desert sunset. After sunset it was still over an hour until astronomical darkness, and I decided to take a nap to rejuvenate myself.

At half past nine I woke up and was not impressed by sky. At first glance it looked almost as bad as at home, grayish and lacking faint stars. Upon closer examination I realized that no, there were more stars visible than from home, but it was far from the best I have seen at Anza. On top of that, everything was wet with heavy dew and the fog was forming in the valley below.

Still, the scopes and finders were well-protected from dew, and I proceeded with galaxy hunt. Ursa Major was at the highest position and became hunting grounds for the evening.

First galaxy went easier than expected. Second was also resolved without too much struggle. I broke from the EP, looked at the sky, and realized that I don’t see the Riverside light dome below Ursa Major. On a typical summer night, it is the worst. I looked around and the other light domes disappeared to. Approaching low clouds hid them all. Excellent! I went back to the galaxies with even more vigor. The fun lasted for two hours, but eventually the clouds closed in around midnight and all-stars disappeared.

It turned out to be a very enjoyable session. Between the targets I looked at the starry sky and watched Lyra, Hercules, Ophiuchus, and Scorpio rising. Summer is coming. :D

Here is my haul for the evening.

URSA MAJOR GALAXIES

NGC 2870 (mag 13.0, size 2.5’ x 0.6’, SB 13.4) – faint narrow AV lens (118x, 168x).
NGC 3043 (mag 12.6, size 1.7’ x 0.6’, SB 12.5) – faint AV glow at 118x, small AV lens with brighter central area at 168x.
NGC 3063 – not a galaxy, listed as two stars. However, looks like small, faint, unresolved spot. Not surprising it was cataloged by William Herschel as DSO (168x, 235x).

NGC 3102 (mag 13.3, size 0.8’ x 0.8’, SB 12.6) – small round spot with AV next to a 13.6 mag star (168x, 235x).
NGC 3182 (mag 12.1, size 1.8’ x 1.5’, SB 13.1) – relatively bright disk with compact core (118x).
NGC 3188 (mag 13.7, size 48" x 36", SB 12.6) – extremely faint small round spot with AV (168x).
NGC 3191 (aka NGC 3192, mag 13.3, size 48" x 36", SB 12.2) – small faint elongated oval (118x).

NGC 3202 (mag 13.2, size 1.2’ x 0.8’, SB 13.1), NGC 3205 (mag 13.2, size 1.4’ x 1.1’, SB 13.5) and NGC 3207 (mag 13.2, size 1.3’ x 0.8’, SB 13.1) – three small AV spots in the same FOV (168x).

NGC 3206 (mag 11.9, size 3.0’ x 1.9’, SB 13.6) – larger faint AV oval (118x).
NGC 3220 (mag 13.0, size 1.7’ x 0.6’, SB 12.9) – small faint oval with AV (168x).
NGC 3237 (mag 13.0, size 1.3’ x 1.3’, SB 13.4) – small rod spot with AV (118x).

NGC 3238 (mag 12.9, size 1.4’ x 1.3’, SB 13.4) - small faint spot with AV (118x).
NGC 3259 (mag 12.1, size 2.2’ x 1.2’, SB 13.0) – faint elongated oval (118x).
NGC 3266 (mag 12.4, size 1.5’ x 1.3’, SB 13.1) – small faint disk with stellar core (168x).
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Congratulations with your successful quest and nice report. For a change the clouds were your friends! (first time I write this on an astronomical forum)
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Glad to hear you are back at your favorite hunting grounds! Super report and some fine targets!

Dave

I was curious about NGC 3063 and had to look it up. Image attached!
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how good it feels to return to the source, a whole first evening filled with celestial jewels.
nice report, thx .
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Very nice report Andrey and today's well-deserved VROD for your celestial journeys in Ursa Major!

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Thanks John, Dave, Jean-Yves and Michael!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Congratulations on your VROD!
Refractors in frequency of use : *SW Evostar 120ED F/7.5 (all round ), * Vixen 102ED F/9 (vintage), both on Vixen GPDX.
GrabnGo on Alt/AZ : *SW Startravel 102 F/5 refractor( widefield, Sun, push-to), *OMC140 Maksutov F/14.3 ( planets).
Most used Eyepieces: *Panoptic 24, *Morpheus 14, *Leica ASPH zoom, *Zeiss barlow, *Pentax XO5.
Commonly used bino's : *Jena 10X50 , * Canon 10X30 IS, *Swarovski Habicht 7X42, * Celestron 15X70, *Kasai 2.3X40
Rijswijk Public Observatory: * Astro-Physics Starfire 130 f/8, * 6 inch Newton, * C9.25, * Meade 14 inch LX600 ACF, *Lunt.
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Congrats on your VROD!!

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Very well done Andrey! A nice collection of galaxies in UMa indeed. A well deserved VROD my friend.

Interesting catch with NGC 3063. Looking that one up, it seems to be a pair of stars (mag 14.9 and 15.4) separated by about 9". Thanks to Dave for posting the image. There seems to be some confusion about the field containing NGC 3065 and NGC 3066, which Herschel had discovered in 1785 during the same observing sweep. However, the "object" that became NGC 3063 wasn't observed until his very last observation sweep, which occurred in 1802. There seems to be some discrepancies in the notations taken by Caroline as well as by John Herschel. Given the tightness of the pair and fairly dim magnitudes of the stars, it is easy to see how Herschel might have suspected them as a very small and dim diffuse object.

Checking my log, I see I observed NGC 3065 and NGC 3066 four years ago at our dark site property with the 17.5", but made no note of NGC 3063. I am sure I saw it, but simply didn't know it was a thing as it is not plotted in Uranometria. One of the numerous errors in the NGC.
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Thanks Alan! As you know I am on multi-year journey to complete the Herschel original 2,500 catalog, including duplicates, errors and none-existing objects. This gives you feel of what real science is with trial and error. Not that I don't know it from my daily work in the lab. :lol:
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

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That is indeed an admirable goal, and you are making excellent progress!
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Congratulations on the well deserved VROD Andrey!
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Thanks Jeff!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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