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12/16/2023

Location: home, Bortle 7.
Equipment: SW 182mm Mak on iOptron AZMP mount.

EPs:
TV Plossl 32mm, 50 deg (84x, 2.2mm exit pupil, 0.59 deg TFV)
TV Delite 9mm, 60 deg (300x, 0.6 exit pupil, 0.21 deg TFV)
TV Delite 7mm, 60 deg (386x, 0.5 exit pupil, 0.16 deg TFV)
TV Delite 5mm, 60 deg (540x, 0.3 exit pupil, 0.11 deg TFV)

Two weathers apps I typically use have shown a solid window of several hours of clear sky before next set of clouds rolls in. It was still clear when I have deployed the scope and started observing around 18:00.

I have picked where I left last week in Cepheus.

CEPHEUS DOUBLES

The session has started on a high note. One of my personal goals is to observe (or at least attempt) all Struve doubles. It is like Messier or Herschel lists but for doubles. :D On paper my first target looked hopeless:

STT 32 (8.2, 12.5, 5.6”). Nevertheless, I gave it a shot. To my surprise, with averted vision I was able to steadily hold a faint fuzzy dot next to the bright white main. I have tested two powers (300x and 386x) to make sure it stays in place and then estimated PA. Yep, it is where it supposes to be according to WDS.

Next, another tough target which eluded me previously:

STF 2 (6.7, 6.9, 0.9”) – white pair, partial split at 386x and split by hair at 540x. At 540x I was able to steadily hold two tween stars separated by a thin black fracture.

I realized that I have something special – a night of excellent seeing – a rare beast for my desert location. To capitalized on that I went after another difficult double:

STT 6 AB (7.5, 8.8, 0.7”) – partial split, but I was able to discriminate the colors: white for the main and orange for the dimmer and smaller secondary (386x, 540x).

And then my 30 minutes of fame ended. I have failed a few doubles in a row. First could not understand what was happening, and then realized that the high clouds have moved in a few hours earlier. Most of the sky was already covered but there was a window containing Perseus.

PERSEUS DOUBLES
STF 139 (9.9, 10.3, 10.9, ab9.2”, ac114.6”) – all white (84x).
ARG 6 (aka WAL 14, 8.2, 10, 9.7, ab14.9”, ac66.5”) – white, blue, silver, nice colors (84x).
SKF 1383 (8.3, 9.8, 54.3”) – white, silver (84x).

And then the clouds caught up with me. All sky was covered. However, 20 minutes later, when I have finished taking things down and brought everything back home, the sky cleared up considerably with a few large cloud-free areas. But I knew that the clouds were just screwing with me. :lol: If I try to bring the scope out again they would be back, so the wise thing was to call it a night.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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short , but good , thx .
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Thanks for the great report! I love hunting doubles too.
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Good job Andrey! Yeah, sometimes it is nothing more than just short. But that will beat not at all any night of the week! Well done my friend and I see a VROD headed your way!
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messier 111 wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:45 am short , but good , thx .
Thanks Jean-Yves!
The Wave Catcher wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:57 am Thanks for the great report! I love hunting doubles too.
Thanks Steve! I am passionate about doubles as much as DSOs and luckily doubles handle light pollution quite well.
kt4hx wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:11 am Good job Andrey! Yeah, sometimes it is nothing more than just short. But that will beat not at all any night of the week! Well done my friend and I see a VROD headed your way!
Thanks Alan! When the clouds rushed in I was quite upset with the weather apps, but there is a silver lining to it. If they were accurate I would be just watching TV, instead I have managed a few tough splits.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Nice report Andrey, nice evening 😀
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Fine report Andrey, and as Alan says a VROD is headed your way. I am up and hoping for some clouds to clear this morning and may get in one of those early morning sessions, or very late evening, however you look at it!

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A short session beats no session every time. :wink:
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Ylem wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:55 am Nice report Andrey, nice evening 😀
Thanks Jeff!
helicon wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:23 am Fine report Andrey, and as Alan says a VROD is headed your way. I am up and hoping for some clouds to clear this morning and may get in one of those early morning sessions, or very late evening, however you look at it!

viewtopic.php?p=261105#p261105
Thanks Michael! Glad you manage a session this morning. I like morning sessions more than evening, albeit they are harder to arrange.
pakarinen wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:49 pm A short session beats no session every time. :wink:
You betcha! :D
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Hi Andrey, that was a great read :D Good for you on the double stars; 6 in a session. And that must have been a clear time frame to crank out the magnification you did! Great session in the minutes that you had!

Nice to see your holiday avatar too :D

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Thefatkitty wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:14 pm Hi Andrey, that was a great read :D Good for you on the double stars; 6 in a session. And that must have been a clear time frame to crank out the magnification you did! Great session in the minutes that you had!

Nice to see your holiday avatar too :D

All the best and well deserved VROD,
Thanks Mark! And back at you on the holiday ava. :D
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Wow! A 0.9" and a 0.7" split!!
Very impressive!
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John Baars wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:45 am Wow! A 0.9" and a 0.7" split!!
Very impressive!
Congratulations!
Thanks John!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
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EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Nice session, Andrey...and some difficult captures! Congrats on your VROD recognition.

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Thanks Dave! Unknown to me that was the last session of 2024. So, I have finished the year with... What is opposite to bang? :lol:

Happy New Year!
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Bigzmey wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:14 pm Thanks Dave! Unknown to me that was the last session of 2024. So, I have finished the year with... What is opposite to bang? :lol:

Happy New Year!
Opposite of "bang" might be "whimper"....but I certainly would not class it as such! Struve list...3112 objects me thinks! Several beyond my meager 5 inch frac!!

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Unitron48 wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:34 pm
Bigzmey wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:14 pm Thanks Dave! Unknown to me that was the last session of 2024. So, I have finished the year with... What is opposite to bang? :lol:

Happy New Year!
Opposite of "bang" might be "whimper"....but I certainly would not class it as such! Struve list...3112 objects me thinks! Several beyond my meager 5 inch frac!!

Dave
And I would not call 5" frac meager. :) From my experience it reaches as far as at least 6" reflector.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Delos, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3122 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2196, S110: 77). Doubles: 2461, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 261
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Congratulations on the VROD!
Refractors in frequency of use : *SW Evostar 120ED F/7.5 (all round ), * Vixen 102ED F/9 (vintage), both on Vixen GPDX.
GrabnGo on Alt/AZ : *SW Startravel 102 F/5 refractor( widefield, Sun, push-to), *OMC140 Maksutov F/14.3 ( planets).
Most used Eyepieces: *Panoptic 24, *Morpheus 14, *Leica ASPH zoom, *Zeiss barlow, *Pentax XO5.
Commonly used bino's : *Jena 10X50 , * Canon 10X30 IS, *Swarovski Habicht 7X42, * Celestron 15X70, *Kasai 2.3X40
Rijswijk Public Observatory: * Astro-Physics Starfire 130 f/8, * 6 inch Newton, * C9.25, * Meade 14 inch LX600 ACF, *Lunt.
Amateur astronomer since 1970.
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