Who likes 80°+ eyepieces?
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Who likes 80°+ eyepieces?
Then I can decide if they will be in the 2024 astro budget.
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If they manage release for Christmas, I bet there will be a few available on the used market early spring.
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I would expect being from Ricoh that they will be good but still...
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Re: Who likes 80°+ eyepieces?
Me too except I'll be dismissing them out of hand.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:06 am I do not have happy thoughts about 80° and wider eyepieces so will be waiting for someone to test them.
I would expect being from Ricoh that they will be good but still...
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Handful of refractors, a pair of old binoculars, tin box full of plossls and orthos, couple of EQ mounts with some wooden legs
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I eventually picked up a new 21mm Ethos from Agena because I was given one of their gift cards for Christmas, which helped lessen the kick to the wallet at little. While it is indeed a huge
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So your review will be posted mid January Alan?
I like the Docter 12.5mm 84° and the Nikon HW 102° though I prefer the Nikon
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I have no issue with the Morpheus but 95% of the time I am viewing with eyepieces between 30° - 50°
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Re: Who likes 80°+ eyepieces?
Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:14 pm @kt4hx
So your review will be posted mid January Alan?
I like the Docter 12.5mm 84° and the Nikon HW 102° though I prefer the Nikon SW at 74° more.
mmmmmm....likely not! At about $480 a pop, I doubt I will be buying one. Granted, its not as bad as an Ethos price-wise, but at 16.5mm and 23mm, I don't feel its something I need. That said, I did just buy a used 12.5mm University Optics Zebra Ortho. But that was for a special purpose. This next spring I would like to emulate William Herschel's greatest night of discovery, when he discovered 73 objects in one sweep, otherwise known modernly as the Herschel Sprint. He was using a finding magnification of around 150x, but with narrower eyepieces than I have. This ortho will give me about 159x, 18' TFOV and an exit pupil of 2.8mm. I likely will not use Herschel's drift method though as it is quite time consuming. I will simply star hop to them. Should be interesting!
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That's a fun project, good luck Alan! When I was observing galaxies with a mixed set of ES82s and Meade UWAs I have used Baader Classic Orthos and older TV Plossl smoothies on occasion to squeeze a few more photons on extra faint galaxies. However, since I have switched to Pentax XWs it hardly ever happens.kt4hx wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:56 pmLady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:14 pm @kt4hx
So your review will be posted mid January Alan?
I like the Docter 12.5mm 84° and the Nikon HW 102° though I prefer the Nikon SW at 74° more.
mmmmmm....likely not! At about $480 a pop, I doubt I will be buying one. Granted, its not as bad as an Ethos price-wise, but at 16.5mm and 23mm, I don't feel its something I need. That said, I did just buy a used 12.5mm University Optics Zebra Ortho. But that was for a special purpose. This next spring I would like to emulate William Herschel's greatest night of discovery, when he discovered 73 objects in one sweep, otherwise known modernly as the Herschel Sprint. He was using a finding magnification of around 150x, but with narrower eyepieces than I have. This ortho will give me about 159x, 18' TFOV and an exit pupil of 2.8mm. I likely will not use Herschel's drift method though as it is quite time consuming. I will simply star hop to them. Should be interesting!
Table-The-Herschel-Sprint.pdf
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That should be a interesting attempt Alan.kt4hx wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:56 pm mmmmmm....likely not! At about $480 a pop, I doubt I will be buying one. Granted, its not as bad as an Ethos price-wise, but at 16.5mm and 23mm, I don't feel its something I need. That said, I did just buy a used 12.5mm University Optics Zebra Ortho. But that was for a special purpose. This next spring I would like to emulate William Herschel's greatest night of discovery, when he discovered 73 objects in one sweep, otherwise known modernly as the Herschel Sprint. He was using a finding magnification of around 150x, but with narrower eyepieces than I have. This ortho will give me about 159x, 18' TFOV and an exit pupil of 2.8mm. I likely will not use Herschel's drift method though as it is quite time consuming. I will simply star hop to them. Should be interesting!
Table-The-Herschel-Sprint.pdf
The UO zebra/ Galoc ortho are nice quality eyepieces.
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Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:08 pm That should be a interesting attempt Alan.
The UO zebra/ Galoc ortho are nice quality eyepieces.
I feel it will be a nice test of my observing skills. After using the 13mm Ethos for a while now as my main galaxy eyepiece, the Ortho will be a real through the straw experience for me. But I wanted to make it as close to what he experienced as I could. Though admittedly I would not like the 20 ft focal length and having to climb around!
Thanks for the comment on the UO Zebra / Galoc orthos Gabrielle. I just hope in my
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Bigzmey wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:45 pm That's a fun project, good luck Alan! When I was observing galaxies with a mixed set of ES82s and Meade UWAs I have used Baader Classic Orthos and older TV Plossl smoothies on occasion to squeeze a few more photons on extra faint galaxies. However, since I have switched to Pentax XWs it hardly ever happens.
Thank you Andrey. It should be fun and taxing at the same time. Its been many a year since I've looked through an ortho, or even a Plossl, so will be an interesting experience for me.
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"No good deed goes unpunished." (various)
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I imagine you should be alright at
With the older UO eyepieces there was a possibility of a single blue/green ghost on brighter objects. (some Claves did the same)
If you have not seen it then the eyepiece is a newer version with better coatings.
If there is a ghost you can just go slightly off axis and the ghost will move the opposite direction leaving you a clear image.
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Other than the normal 19 factors I look for to evaluate an eyepiece, I will specifically be looking for:
--diameter of threads under the eyecup, which will determine DioptRx compatibility
--depth of eye lens below eyecup top (to determine effective eye relief for glasses wearers)
--whether another rubber eyecup can be attached to increase the effective eye relief
--Paracorr setting (I suspect setting E, but don't know yet)
--how the 23mm compares to the 22mm Nagler in most factors.
The marketplace for these eyepieces will not be huge, but it will take quite a while to quench initial demand.
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But I'm not in the market for any new eyepieces right now.
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Curious minds want to know...
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I used to use pairs of Delos for that, rather happily. That was back when I had the Baader Mark V.
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I think the one and only dodgy UO Zebra ortho ever made must have landed in my eyepiece box
Handful of refractors, a pair of old binoculars, tin box full of plossls and orthos, couple of EQ mounts with some wooden legs
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